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blast off on another episode of hero

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paranormal podcast my name is ryan the

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original outlaw of the airwaves bringing

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you another episode tonight

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we have an amazing guest today on

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today's episode of hero paranormal we

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have returning guest mark parra world

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renowned bigfoot researcher president of

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colorado sasquatch research

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and mark is consistently in the field

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doing what he does best with frequency

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consistently finding habitats and

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structures created by the region's most

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elusive inhabitants

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sasquatch the legendary mythological and

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controversial

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cryptozoological creature

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which is reportedly

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cited thousands of times a year in the

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united states alone let alone the world

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over time mark has gathered images and a

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remarkable knowledge of the stomping

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grounds of the creature which is

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purported by many to inhabit the forests

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of north america the ape-like creature

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with human-like traits which seems to

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defy explanations

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mark's methodologies have provided

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consistent tell-tale signs of the

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creature's existence throughout the

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years and he has incorporated flexible

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research methods to provide valid

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documentations of his findings

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i couldn't be more excited to discuss

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the physical evidence and analysis of

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the secluded places this sasquatch may

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call home

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welcome to the hero paranormal podcast

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thanks for having me appreciate it

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absolutely mark gosh i'm so excited to

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talk to you again it seems like

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bigfoot has really kind of blown up on

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the scene there's been a lot of new

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new developments in the field

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and with that being said mark what

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sparked or started your fiery journey of

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tracking and documenting the most

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elusive ape-like creature in north

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america

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um well i used to work a lot of

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graveyard shifts

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i needed something new in my life so i

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was listening to coast to coast am a lot

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this was back in 2010

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so i decided i want to be uh

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get involved in that and go looking

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since you know i live in colorado in the

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rocky mountains and

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i love the back country

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i own a lot of four wheel drive jeeps

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and so forth so over the years so i

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i know the colorado back country and how

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to get to some secluded places but it

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occurred to me that uh you know

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the bigfoot was out there i just it just

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wasn't in my in my mind and because i've

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been listening to coast to coast am on a

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lot of these shows um i just decided i

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was gonna go looking bottom line and so

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basically i basically did

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just the basic investigative work of

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looking for bigfoot reports online

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everything that's out there on the bfro

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it was a little bit too far for me to

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drive into the mountains

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if i was going to be involved in this i

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try and see if i could see or or get a

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uh a bigfoot on video

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so basically it started as just

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something fun i wanted to be involved in

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uh and then i had my first sighting in

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2010 february of 2010 in a small state

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park outside of castle rock colorado

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and from that point on

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it consumed my life for

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some 12 years now

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locations across the eastern front range

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of the rockies known as the palmer

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and we located several

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locations that had enough evidence on

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the ground evidence for us to

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you know start opening up different

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investigations in different places and

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visit each of those locations at

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different times

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to try and determine when they're the

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hottest so that we can start doing more

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that state park in 2010 some kind of

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weird news just came out today

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that kind of surprised me

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the county douglas county colorado is

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going to start doing more archaeological

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digs inside some of the rock shelters

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and caves in the park so

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that's kind of interesting news

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i don't know if it has anything to do

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with the work i've been doing for 12

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years and everything but it's kind of

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strange since they're gonna

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archaeologists are going to start

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digging uh in the in the caves in there

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that's very interesting and yeah you

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we go into a little bit of that for our

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listeners so they understand kind of

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what that's about

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sure uh back in 2010 after i had my

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first encounter part of my initial

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way of that i was going to investigate

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was what everybody else was doing out

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there in the research community in the

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field research community was gifting

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some people had their own methods and so

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forth um i

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have a native american friend

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that was friends with our dear friend

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the late j.c

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johnson um and he had turned me onto the

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fact that they really really really love

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corn and sweet corn if you can get it

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really focusing on the collection of dna

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not right away in 2010 this was much

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dna study the ketchum dna study was just

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i believe that the report hadn't been

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what i had i had talked to her about you

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know what i was using

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and that was corn uh i was taking a you

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know like a white sack with a piece of

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rope and putting like 12 pieces of corn

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i would just go to walmart and buy you

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a dozen or more corn take it with me

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i had one particular cave uh that i had

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discovered over the years that was going

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to become that gifting location there

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was tp structures and prints and

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um this cave was really hot i had seen

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large rocks moved in front of holes uh

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into like tombs they're like tomb caves

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or pits they can move a big rock in

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front of it and you'd never know

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anything was in there

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anyway so forth so one of these caves i

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used to tuck it way back you know kind

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of high in a little crevice in a hole

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and i would come back and sometimes the

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entire sack would just be gone and there

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would be nothing

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another time i had corn where it looks

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like they had taken the sack but it eat

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five or six of the corn cobs and they

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were just stripped dry

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and they were down on the ground and um

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you know so i collected that um and

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tried to not contaminate it the best i

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and you know mel the kitchen they told

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me at that time that that was an

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excellent idea because those corn cobs

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will actually hold the saliva in there

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through any weather conditions freezing

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really absorb that saliva and that dna

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but i never did uh get to submit those

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samples into the study because like i

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said i kind of got into it late as that

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was occurring jc had kept me informed on

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his samples uh that he had submitted and

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so forth but he was already in the whole

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process of the uh of submitting the

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samples and support long before i had

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my whole thing from the beginning is

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always i wanted to get one of these on

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you know if i could um and that was

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but you there's kind of a learning curve

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you're going to be experimenting with

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all of that type dna collection looking

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aren't really going to matter and people

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think we've kind of jumped beyond

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dna in gifting

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in anthropology is the bones

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and i know that's why douglas county has

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chosen to go back into my you know one

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of our research years my main research

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area and uh start doing archaeological

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and i knew that was going to happen

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because the teams that the british

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american russian scientists that worked

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on the denisova project now have opened

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a secondary cave they're working in

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alaska looking to see if they can pick

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up the trail of hominins coming across

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the strait and so forth

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yeah that's kind of where that's kind of

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i have at least six locations where

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susan and i have located graves they're

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shallow mounds basically sometimes logs

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and debris have been mixed in with rocks

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but you can clearly see that they're

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mounds

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has like a wild grass that grows over it

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and it's in the shape if you were to

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bury a ten foot big foot that's what the

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shape of this particular grave looks

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but because of laws and other things we

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really have to keep that secret if we're

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going to choose to

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dig one of these up because um

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you know you could get big trouble

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for doing that in colorado big big

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and i'm glad um and you are very

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respectful of the quote-unquote stomping

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grounds of the creature and i'm glad you

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mentioned jc johnson because

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what a fascinating individual and i mean

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it's close to a real life india indiana

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jones i've ever come across and i kind

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of see him as a lot of the true blue

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uh bigfoot researchers kind of were

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involved with or connected with that

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camp pretty amazing stuff and i'm glad

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you mentioned him

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people often hunt and sometimes see

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bigfoot when looking

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and is there a correlation between the

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two or are there tricks of the trade in

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your opinion which offer more likelihood

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to see the creature for those who

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haven't gone out

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okay one of the biggest things that was

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the most revealing piece of data that we

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found

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in colorado is

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is that sasquatch sightings appear to

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happen in areas where the youth indians

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had settlements um

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in the way the youths were the youths

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didn't have a central pueblo

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location with kivas and so forth like

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that you were pretty much a nomadic

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native american tribe and they they

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followed the elk herds and the mountain

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goat herds

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inside colorado pronghorn sheep mountain

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sheep so forth and they stuck close to

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them because

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there's two reasons um

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the elk

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have different migrational routes in

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colorado

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and when the native americans

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would always stick with you know within

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a couple miles or so forth of these

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migrating elk moving with the elk

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because the elk

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for one provided all the skins the meat

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and so forth to feed the tribes

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but also because in colorado

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we have the elk like to migrate through

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we have a lot of areas known as

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flatlands that aren't up in the high

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rocky mountains but in these flat lands

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you have groupings of large amounts of

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pine trees the same type of what we call

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foothills pines which are all the

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different species of pine trees that are

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in the mountains

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these are down on the eastern plains

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so the elk come down off the foothills

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um

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into certain areas

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just east almost not quite to i-25 a

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little beyond it

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and

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the sasquatch we've you know keep track

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and we know what they do they follow the

335
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elk um because it is about resources

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they do like to stick

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and i have to say this you know my

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research is focused on the eastern front

339
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range of the rockies it's what we do i

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don't i can't speak for what other

341
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people experience in other parts of the

342
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state

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apply because of diet and topography and

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everything else in order for the

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creatures to survive out here in

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colorado

347
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so everything had to be based around

348
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that

349
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about resources

350
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um

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it's kind of a disturbing

352
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fact that that me and susan have

353
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discovered that

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in the different places um

355
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these creatures do not build structures

356
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to communicate with us

357
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they don't they have a completely

358
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different world going on

359
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they build the x's and the arches and

360
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the other tribal type symbology to ward

361
00:14:17,110 --> 00:14:15,600
off inner loopers

362
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because it is about a fight for

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resources and so if you have

364
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a group of sasquatch in one area that

365
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have been there for a while

366
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um and there's enough habitat to support

367
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maybe two and maybe a child

368
00:14:33,189 --> 00:14:30,880
because you know they don't want to burn

369
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out an area these creatures are the

370
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world's greatest conservationists so

371
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they'll take care of the area and just

372
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won't burn it out eat all the small game

373
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and so forth in fact in some areas we

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found they do work with beavers close to

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beaver dams

376
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but so anyways

377
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i believe these things build those

378
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structures and the x symbols and

379
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symbology to

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for interlopers to come in and try and

381
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kick them out

382
00:15:01,829 --> 00:14:58,959
and i believe they've killed each other

383
00:15:04,710 --> 00:15:01,839
i think that these sympathies bigfoot um

384
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you know attack each other

385
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yeah

386
00:15:13,590 --> 00:15:11,279
and i think that as far as a concert

387
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conservation perspective i agree 100

388
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percent just on my limited

389
00:15:20,069 --> 00:15:18,560
knowledge and you know i like what uh i

390
00:15:21,829 --> 00:15:20,079
believe it's matt moneymaker says we

391
00:15:25,430 --> 00:15:21,839
have a lot to learn

392
00:15:28,069 --> 00:15:25,440
uh from from the sasquatch there is a

393
00:15:31,590 --> 00:15:28,079
significant debate in the bigfoot

394
00:15:33,990 --> 00:15:31,600
community about what exactly bigfoot is

395
00:15:35,990 --> 00:15:34,000
in your best approximation of your

396
00:15:37,990 --> 00:15:36,000
countless years of research what is a

397
00:15:39,350 --> 00:15:38,000
valid description of the creature in

398
00:15:41,030 --> 00:15:39,360
your opinion

399
00:15:43,990 --> 00:15:41,040
wild hominin

400
00:15:47,189 --> 00:15:44,000
it somehow had survived it i'm pretty

401
00:15:50,230 --> 00:15:47,199
much in melba ketchum's camp um on most

402
00:15:52,710 --> 00:15:50,240
of it uh other than the opinions maybe

403
00:15:54,550 --> 00:15:52,720
the personal opinions um

404
00:15:56,790 --> 00:15:54,560
what i've seen in colorado

405
00:15:59,590 --> 00:15:56,800
lives in caves they live in like i said

406
00:16:01,829 --> 00:15:59,600
tombs pits and so forth this also

407
00:16:03,509 --> 00:16:01,839
protects them from forest fires which is

408
00:16:04,629 --> 00:16:03,519
one of the reasons i was able to figure

409
00:16:06,470 --> 00:16:04,639
that out that that's what they were

410
00:16:08,550 --> 00:16:06,480
doing when there's a forest fire they

411
00:16:10,470 --> 00:16:08,560
can in tune themselves in a in a small

412
00:16:11,910 --> 00:16:10,480
cave and basically pull a rock and put

413
00:16:13,350 --> 00:16:11,920
other debris in front of it and they're

414
00:16:15,990 --> 00:16:13,360
they're fine

415
00:16:17,430 --> 00:16:16,000
until the fire passes um and that's how

416
00:16:19,670 --> 00:16:17,440
we discovered what they were doing is

417
00:16:21,590 --> 00:16:19,680
they were living underground so you know

418
00:16:23,509 --> 00:16:21,600
in my opinion these things from what i

419
00:16:25,590 --> 00:16:23,519
have witnessed they have the brow ridge

420
00:16:27,910 --> 00:16:25,600
they have the big eyes for singing the

421
00:16:30,069 --> 00:16:27,920
dark um

422
00:16:33,110 --> 00:16:30,079
there's no way they could hide from us

423
00:16:35,110 --> 00:16:33,120
as long as they have their one

424
00:16:37,910 --> 00:16:35,120
main thing is the wiring of their brain

425
00:16:40,629 --> 00:16:37,920
to see in the infrared spectrum and they

426
00:16:43,509 --> 00:16:40,639
they dog us at every corner based on

427
00:16:45,189 --> 00:16:43,519
that simple fact because their entire

428
00:16:46,870 --> 00:16:45,199
brain wave activity is going to be

429
00:16:48,629 --> 00:16:46,880
different than us there

430
00:16:52,150 --> 00:16:48,639
they may have our intelligence but

431
00:16:53,670 --> 00:16:52,160
basically in order for them to

432
00:16:56,150 --> 00:16:53,680
to really get away

433
00:16:57,829 --> 00:16:56,160
to hide um

434
00:16:59,990 --> 00:16:57,839
i mean they're using some basics you

435
00:17:01,430 --> 00:17:00,000
know if you if you were a wild man if

436
00:17:03,829 --> 00:17:01,440
you see that's part of building a

437
00:17:06,069 --> 00:17:03,839
profile in in my investigations is when

438
00:17:09,590 --> 00:17:06,079
we go into an area i immediately start

439
00:17:11,909 --> 00:17:09,600
building a uh a tracker's profile on on

440
00:17:13,750 --> 00:17:11,919
what i'm going after so i start thinking

441
00:17:15,669 --> 00:17:13,760
about you know getting it into its head

442
00:17:16,789 --> 00:17:15,679
where's the water where's the food why

443
00:17:20,710 --> 00:17:16,799
is it here

444
00:17:23,270 --> 00:17:20,720
and so forth um and it's really it at

445
00:17:25,350 --> 00:17:23,280
times it seems like it's really easy

446
00:17:27,669 --> 00:17:25,360
uh because you start picking up sign you

447
00:17:30,390 --> 00:17:27,679
may get whooped at it's getting a little

448
00:17:32,870 --> 00:17:30,400
closer as you push at them

449
00:17:35,350 --> 00:17:32,880
we've had rocks thrown at us and i'm the

450
00:17:36,950 --> 00:17:35,360
type of guy that's who's gonna tell you

451
00:17:38,630 --> 00:17:36,960
i ran up the hill

452
00:17:40,310 --> 00:17:38,640
i made a little prep to make sure she

453
00:17:42,390 --> 00:17:40,320
was safe and everything served we had a

454
00:17:43,590 --> 00:17:42,400
rock throwing us on the play river and i

455
00:17:46,630 --> 00:17:43,600
took off

456
00:17:48,230 --> 00:17:46,640
off up the hill uh for about a quarter

457
00:17:50,710 --> 00:17:48,240
of a mile to see who threw a rock and

458
00:17:52,470 --> 00:17:50,720
used down the prince right away wow he

459
00:17:55,029 --> 00:17:52,480
was in full retreat

460
00:17:57,510 --> 00:17:55,039
and then in that set of videos everybody

461
00:18:00,150 --> 00:17:57,520
saw i found some really cool caves a

462
00:18:02,549 --> 00:18:00,160
very very hidden cave back there that no

463
00:18:03,750 --> 00:18:02,559
one would know if if i hadn't gone up

464
00:18:05,750 --> 00:18:03,760
there

465
00:18:07,190 --> 00:18:05,760
and that took on a series of videos up

466
00:18:09,430 --> 00:18:07,200
there i had

467
00:18:11,190 --> 00:18:09,440
some experiences up there but

468
00:18:13,110 --> 00:18:11,200
they are very

469
00:18:15,110 --> 00:18:13,120
prominent i mean i don't know how else

470
00:18:18,070 --> 00:18:15,120
to put it if you want to say

471
00:18:21,510 --> 00:18:18,080
homo antes or hydo virginis

472
00:18:23,909 --> 00:18:21,520
uh homo erectus any of those

473
00:18:26,070 --> 00:18:23,919
hominin species that we've all studied

474
00:18:27,750 --> 00:18:26,080
up on if you have studied up on them you

475
00:18:29,510 --> 00:18:27,760
know people some people just don't they

476
00:18:32,070 --> 00:18:29,520
just make up stories

477
00:18:34,310 --> 00:18:32,080
um of what they are

478
00:18:36,870 --> 00:18:34,320
they are the hominins they have the brow

479
00:18:39,430 --> 00:18:36,880
ridge to see in the dark they utilize

480
00:18:41,669 --> 00:18:39,440
caves uh that type of height capability

481
00:18:43,430 --> 00:18:41,679
they follow the wild game

482
00:18:45,029 --> 00:18:43,440
and as my buddy robert kreider has

483
00:18:47,190 --> 00:18:45,039
pointed out time and time again a big

484
00:18:49,029 --> 00:18:47,200
part of what we do on forensic ground

485
00:18:50,789 --> 00:18:49,039
research is poop

486
00:18:52,310 --> 00:18:50,799
and that's how we determine what they're

487
00:18:53,510 --> 00:18:52,320
eating um

488
00:18:55,029 --> 00:18:53,520
the the

489
00:18:56,630 --> 00:18:55,039
the poop uh

490
00:18:57,909 --> 00:18:56,640
saying that there is a

491
00:18:59,990 --> 00:18:57,919
a wild

492
00:19:01,750 --> 00:19:00,000
or wild

493
00:19:03,990 --> 00:19:01,760
hominin and that's what i call them as a

494
00:19:05,029 --> 00:19:04,000
holonym because i'm thinking

495
00:19:07,669 --> 00:19:05,039
my

496
00:19:09,909 --> 00:19:07,679
sight it's not that it's linear

497
00:19:12,470 --> 00:19:09,919
um i do have an open mind to everything

498
00:19:14,870 --> 00:19:12,480
but the basic profile of what everybody

499
00:19:16,470 --> 00:19:14,880
has been dealing with out there is a

500
00:19:18,390 --> 00:19:16,480
hominin

501
00:19:19,590 --> 00:19:18,400
yes and that's basically it's just a

502
00:19:22,630 --> 00:19:19,600
version

503
00:19:23,750 --> 00:19:22,640
uh like i know that melva did the dna

504
00:19:26,710 --> 00:19:23,760
and so forth is that there's not

505
00:19:28,870 --> 00:19:26,720
neanderthal and so forth there but

506
00:19:30,950 --> 00:19:28,880
as we've been learning

507
00:19:31,669 --> 00:19:30,960
there's so many hominin species that are

508
00:19:34,150 --> 00:19:31,679
being

509
00:19:35,590 --> 00:19:34,160
unearthed now whether it's dragon man in

510
00:19:38,310 --> 00:19:35,600
china

511
00:19:41,029 --> 00:19:38,320
what's going on in alaska a trail has

512
00:19:42,950 --> 00:19:41,039
been started in denisova

513
00:19:45,110 --> 00:19:42,960
things that they didn't see these last

514
00:19:47,750 --> 00:19:45,120
couple years that the science didn't

515
00:19:50,470 --> 00:19:47,760
know about they found neanderthal bones

516
00:19:52,230 --> 00:19:50,480
in indonesia and just a few years ago

517
00:19:53,590 --> 00:19:52,240
that was unheard of no one thought they

518
00:19:54,470 --> 00:19:53,600
made it that far

519
00:19:57,430 --> 00:19:54,480
so

520
00:20:01,110 --> 00:19:57,440
clearly hominins were moving with the

521
00:20:03,270 --> 00:20:01,120
sub siberian populations as the

522
00:20:05,590 --> 00:20:03,280
ice melted in north america the natural

523
00:20:07,270 --> 00:20:05,600
disaster ceased they were able to come

524
00:20:09,350 --> 00:20:07,280
across the bering strait with those

525
00:20:11,350 --> 00:20:09,360
native american populations because a

526
00:20:13,029 --> 00:20:11,360
lot of people don't understand that's

527
00:20:15,750 --> 00:20:13,039
what came down

528
00:20:17,990 --> 00:20:15,760
out of siberia and those

529
00:20:20,870 --> 00:20:18,000
whether it be the inuit and so forth

530
00:20:23,669 --> 00:20:20,880
moved those native american populations

531
00:20:25,510 --> 00:20:23,679
came out of canada also south into the

532
00:20:27,350 --> 00:20:25,520
continental united states

533
00:20:28,149 --> 00:20:27,360
so the timeline

534
00:20:31,029 --> 00:20:28,159
that

535
00:20:33,270 --> 00:20:31,039
was given in the ketchum study for when

536
00:20:36,070 --> 00:20:33,280
this thing came about was just about in

537
00:20:38,070 --> 00:20:36,080
that in that timeline when the

538
00:20:41,350 --> 00:20:38,080
native migrations came through was which

539
00:20:42,710 --> 00:20:41,360
was about 15 000 20 000 years ago

540
00:20:44,070 --> 00:20:42,720
so i've always kind of stuck with the

541
00:20:46,630 --> 00:20:44,080
hominin theory

542
00:20:49,350 --> 00:20:46,640
i have i'm not denying the paranormal

543
00:20:50,230 --> 00:20:49,360
stuff because we've experienced it

544
00:20:53,190 --> 00:20:50,240
but

545
00:20:55,190 --> 00:20:53,200
as far as the living breathing thing

546
00:20:59,430 --> 00:20:55,200
that we have encountered and seen it's

547
00:21:00,870 --> 00:20:59,440
very similar to patty very similar

548
00:21:03,190 --> 00:21:00,880
you know i don't know about so much as

549
00:21:05,430 --> 00:21:03,200
far as the gate and the way it walks and

550
00:21:07,510 --> 00:21:05,440
so forth kind of goofy

551
00:21:09,590 --> 00:21:07,520
we haven't seen that but we've seen them

552
00:21:10,870 --> 00:21:09,600
in full retreat especially along the

553
00:21:14,950 --> 00:21:10,880
river

554
00:21:17,590 --> 00:21:14,960
whatever was making the food they move

555
00:21:19,110 --> 00:21:17,600
they move then they can cross the river

556
00:21:20,950 --> 00:21:19,120
and so forth

557
00:21:22,710 --> 00:21:20,960
so it's not like we just catch up to

558
00:21:25,029 --> 00:21:22,720
them like we just see them every time we

559
00:21:28,149 --> 00:21:25,039
go out or so forth there's little subtle

560
00:21:31,830 --> 00:21:28,159
things that you pick up on uh mainly

561
00:21:33,990 --> 00:21:31,840
audibles whoops um in that type breaking

562
00:21:35,430 --> 00:21:34,000
branches you know they're in your area

563
00:21:36,630 --> 00:21:35,440
sometimes they'll throw a rock it

564
00:21:39,909 --> 00:21:36,640
doesn't mean you're going to see them

565
00:21:41,830 --> 00:21:39,919
every time or or hear them

566
00:21:43,350 --> 00:21:41,840
so but i think they're hominins there's

567
00:21:45,590 --> 00:21:43,360
no question about that

568
00:21:47,510 --> 00:21:45,600
as far as all the others

569
00:21:50,549 --> 00:21:47,520
you know the stuff that let people label

570
00:21:51,750 --> 00:21:50,559
on them i'm not there yet i'm not uh

571
00:21:54,230 --> 00:21:51,760
even though i've exp i've been

572
00:21:56,789 --> 00:21:54,240
experiencing the paranormal since i was

573
00:22:00,149 --> 00:21:56,799
a sheriff's deputy in colorado because a

574
00:22:01,270 --> 00:22:00,159
thing that new deputies have to do is we

575
00:22:03,110 --> 00:22:01,280
have to go

576
00:22:04,710 --> 00:22:03,120
and work in the hospital sometimes we

577
00:22:07,750 --> 00:22:04,720
have to transport prisoners to the

578
00:22:10,710 --> 00:22:07,760
hospitals uh to have surgery or or if

579
00:22:12,549 --> 00:22:10,720
they're ill around sometimes they die

580
00:22:14,549 --> 00:22:12,559
so i worked at some of the biggest

581
00:22:16,630 --> 00:22:14,559
hospitals in colorado and i've had my

582
00:22:18,230 --> 00:22:16,640
fair share of ghosts and voices that

583
00:22:19,990 --> 00:22:18,240
just come out of thin air in the

584
00:22:21,590 --> 00:22:20,000
hospital so

585
00:22:24,390 --> 00:22:21,600
i was well accustomed to dealing with

586
00:22:28,149 --> 00:22:24,400
the paranormal before i got into this so

587
00:22:30,149 --> 00:22:28,159
i have a broad broad uh uh horizon

588
00:22:31,190 --> 00:22:30,159
mindset on all of that i mean i have an

589
00:22:33,590 --> 00:22:31,200
open mind

590
00:22:35,430 --> 00:22:33,600
but in the end what me and susan have

591
00:22:37,270 --> 00:22:35,440
seen in all the evidence points is that

592
00:22:38,830 --> 00:22:37,280
what i've been tracking is real it's

593
00:22:41,830 --> 00:22:38,840
living based on the

594
00:22:43,990 --> 00:22:41,840
poop in other things like that

595
00:22:46,789 --> 00:22:44,000
they do get sick

596
00:22:48,070 --> 00:22:46,799
also the food the diet

597
00:22:50,230 --> 00:22:48,080
i mean

598
00:22:52,870 --> 00:22:50,240
we find these little teepees a lot of

599
00:22:54,710 --> 00:22:52,880
people attributed these to juveniles

600
00:22:56,549 --> 00:22:54,720
doing it where you find a little tv just

601
00:22:59,190 --> 00:22:56,559
you know about five feet high or so

602
00:23:00,870 --> 00:22:59,200
maybe two feet high against a tree and

603
00:23:02,390 --> 00:23:00,880
it has other structures around it so

604
00:23:05,110 --> 00:23:02,400
people believe that has

605
00:23:06,710 --> 00:23:05,120
it is soft squatch and it is but a lot

606
00:23:09,270 --> 00:23:06,720
of times people don't take that apart

607
00:23:11,029 --> 00:23:09,280
and look at it that's basically those

608
00:23:13,270 --> 00:23:11,039
are food caches

609
00:23:15,270 --> 00:23:13,280
bigfoot doesn't need to mark a trail

610
00:23:17,029 --> 00:23:15,280
it's been

611
00:23:18,789 --> 00:23:17,039
you know going through up and down night

612
00:23:19,830 --> 00:23:18,799
after night night after night year after

613
00:23:21,430 --> 00:23:19,840
year

614
00:23:23,510 --> 00:23:21,440
it knows where it's going it doesn't

615
00:23:25,750 --> 00:23:23,520
need to mark trails so what they're

616
00:23:28,710 --> 00:23:25,760
doing is they're cashing food inside

617
00:23:31,190 --> 00:23:28,720
these little cache points

618
00:23:34,549 --> 00:23:31,200
robert greiter had pointed out same

619
00:23:37,190 --> 00:23:34,559
thing that they stash food in rocks

620
00:23:39,669 --> 00:23:37,200
stacks and against crevices rock

621
00:23:42,149 --> 00:23:39,679
shelters and so forth

622
00:23:44,549 --> 00:23:42,159
berries nuts leaves small game

623
00:23:45,750 --> 00:23:44,559
things like that and we have found that

624
00:23:48,149 --> 00:23:45,760
so

625
00:23:49,669 --> 00:23:48,159
the paranormal sasquatch is not doing

626
00:23:51,110 --> 00:23:49,679
that

627
00:23:52,710 --> 00:23:51,120
and there's just no way around all the

628
00:23:54,310 --> 00:23:52,720
data that we have

629
00:23:55,510 --> 00:23:54,320
shows that there's whatever we're

630
00:23:58,789 --> 00:23:55,520
tracking

631
00:24:00,390 --> 00:23:58,799
with 16-inch prints is doing that so

632
00:24:01,990 --> 00:24:00,400
there is a real living

633
00:24:02,830 --> 00:24:02,000
side to these

634
00:24:05,909 --> 00:24:02,840
no

635
00:24:08,390 --> 00:24:05,919
question definitely and i'm glad you

636
00:24:10,950 --> 00:24:08,400
brought up robert kreider because he is

637
00:24:12,230 --> 00:24:10,960
someone who in my experience is very

638
00:24:14,549 --> 00:24:12,240
valid and

639
00:24:17,350 --> 00:24:14,559
you know it does seem as if these

640
00:24:19,510 --> 00:24:17,360
creatures really like the waterways i'm

641
00:24:21,510 --> 00:24:19,520
glad you brought up the paranormal topic

642
00:24:22,950 --> 00:24:21,520
of bigfoot and

643
00:24:24,630 --> 00:24:22,960
you know a lot of people merge that with

644
00:24:26,470 --> 00:24:24,640
shapeshifters wendigos and other

645
00:24:28,630 --> 00:24:26,480
mythical creatures and it sometimes

646
00:24:29,750 --> 00:24:28,640
spills over into the bigfoot arena of

647
00:24:32,710 --> 00:24:29,760
research

648
00:24:34,549 --> 00:24:32,720
have you had any paranormal experiences

649
00:24:36,230 --> 00:24:34,559
with dimensional entities when out in

650
00:24:37,990 --> 00:24:36,240
the field and if not do you think that

651
00:24:40,310 --> 00:24:38,000
they should be grouped in to the same

652
00:24:42,950 --> 00:24:40,320
field of study

653
00:24:45,590 --> 00:24:42,960
yes we have uh susan when she joined me

654
00:24:48,149 --> 00:24:45,600
in 2016 had an encounter with a being

655
00:24:49,669 --> 00:24:48,159
that it was following her it was getting

656
00:24:50,789 --> 00:24:49,679
dark she was making her way to the

657
00:24:51,669 --> 00:24:50,799
trailhead

658
00:24:53,190 --> 00:24:51,679
um

659
00:24:55,430 --> 00:24:53,200
and she turned around and got its

660
00:24:57,669 --> 00:24:55,440
picture we did the analysis on that

661
00:25:00,390 --> 00:24:57,679
picture and it looks like a big giant 15

662
00:25:01,830 --> 00:25:00,400
foot tall huge massive bigfoot

663
00:25:04,549 --> 00:25:01,840
smiling at her

664
00:25:06,789 --> 00:25:04,559
wearing a necklace crypto four corners

665
00:25:09,269 --> 00:25:06,799
uh some of their people also did work on

666
00:25:10,470 --> 00:25:09,279
the photograph they looked at it

667
00:25:13,669 --> 00:25:10,480
made sure you know we weren't

668
00:25:15,269 --> 00:25:13,679
photoshopping and pulling any of that

669
00:25:17,269 --> 00:25:15,279
type of stuff

670
00:25:20,310 --> 00:25:17,279
and they did the breakdown and liked

671
00:25:23,830 --> 00:25:21,750
i didn't know what to do with those at

672
00:25:26,070 --> 00:25:23,840
the time

673
00:25:29,350 --> 00:25:26,080
coming from my background

674
00:25:31,350 --> 00:25:29,360
so we consulted some psychic friends uh

675
00:25:33,590 --> 00:25:31,360
of ours here in colorado

676
00:25:34,710 --> 00:25:33,600
um and they helped us through the

677
00:25:37,269 --> 00:25:34,720
process

678
00:25:42,070 --> 00:25:37,279
susan actually is very psychic herself

679
00:25:44,310 --> 00:25:42,080
she has a background and a lot of um

680
00:25:46,470 --> 00:25:44,320
everything from removing viewing to

681
00:25:48,710 --> 00:25:46,480
parapsychology to so forth she's very

682
00:25:51,590 --> 00:25:48,720
educated on on just about all of that

683
00:25:53,750 --> 00:25:51,600
and the paranormal topics so

684
00:25:55,830 --> 00:25:53,760
uh but we always need help we need

685
00:25:57,750 --> 00:25:55,840
second third opinions and so forth so we

686
00:26:00,149 --> 00:25:57,760
took the pictures that we had been

687
00:26:02,789 --> 00:26:00,159
capturing it wasn't just one time i had

688
00:26:05,830 --> 00:26:02,799
caught several strange looking like

689
00:26:06,870 --> 00:26:05,840
demonic bat looking creatures out there

690
00:26:08,830 --> 00:26:06,880
uh

691
00:26:11,430 --> 00:26:08,840
turns out you know it sits on a

692
00:26:13,430 --> 00:26:11,440
graveyard um there is i guess what

693
00:26:15,909 --> 00:26:13,440
people would call a natural portal there

694
00:26:17,029 --> 00:26:15,919
but the native americans would move

695
00:26:19,190 --> 00:26:17,039
through there but they didn't like to

696
00:26:20,789 --> 00:26:19,200
hold up there for too long something was

697
00:26:25,470 --> 00:26:20,799
scaring them out of there

698
00:26:28,149 --> 00:26:25,480
um i believe that there was a pre

699
00:26:30,070 --> 00:26:28,159
pre-pre-apache civilization that existed

700
00:26:31,990 --> 00:26:30,080
in there

701
00:26:32,870 --> 00:26:32,000
because the artifacts seem to suggest

702
00:26:36,470 --> 00:26:32,880
that

703
00:26:39,350 --> 00:26:36,480
university of colorado has done in the

704
00:26:43,669 --> 00:26:39,360
area go back to the archaic period

705
00:26:45,750 --> 00:26:43,679
um we have dinosaur prints out there

706
00:26:48,149 --> 00:26:45,760
now the paranormal one i want to touch

707
00:26:51,430 --> 00:26:48,159
on is there was a thing where the bfr

708
00:26:53,350 --> 00:26:51,440
bfro had released a video from somewhere

709
00:26:55,669 --> 00:26:53,360
that they had got i believe isn't

710
00:26:57,510 --> 00:26:55,679
not sure where it was it's just new

711
00:26:59,510 --> 00:26:57,520
where you see an entity kind of bouncing

712
00:27:02,390 --> 00:26:59,520
around like a monkey off in the distance

713
00:27:05,830 --> 00:27:02,400
but it's it's transparent and it's it

714
00:27:07,669 --> 00:27:05,840
looks like it's on a on a camera a

715
00:27:10,149 --> 00:27:07,679
security camera maybe

716
00:27:12,549 --> 00:27:10,159
and it's bouncing around out there

717
00:27:16,390 --> 00:27:12,559
that is a poltergeist in the in the

718
00:27:18,870 --> 00:27:16,400
paranormal community the people that do

719
00:27:21,350 --> 00:27:18,880
any type of that cleansing psychic

720
00:27:23,350 --> 00:27:21,360
cleansings of homes deal with ghosts

721
00:27:25,190 --> 00:27:23,360
spirits and other type of entities

722
00:27:27,590 --> 00:27:25,200
demons

723
00:27:29,110 --> 00:27:27,600
that is what's known as a poltergeist

724
00:27:31,590 --> 00:27:29,120
and

725
00:27:33,590 --> 00:27:31,600
that is a big that is a big part of the

726
00:27:34,630 --> 00:27:33,600
bigfoot community and the reason why is

727
00:27:36,950 --> 00:27:34,640
this

728
00:27:38,549 --> 00:27:36,960
if you're out in the forest all

729
00:27:42,470 --> 00:27:38,559
especially in let's

730
00:27:44,310 --> 00:27:42,480
colorado it has its old west history

731
00:27:45,830 --> 00:27:44,320
there were gunfights over gold people

732
00:27:47,669 --> 00:27:45,840
just died right there sometimes people

733
00:27:48,950 --> 00:27:47,679
didn't get buried in these gun fights

734
00:27:51,110 --> 00:27:48,960
with

735
00:27:53,990 --> 00:27:51,120
native americans and gold miners the

736
00:27:55,590 --> 00:27:54,000
army um you know colorado has a very

737
00:27:57,190 --> 00:27:55,600
violent beginning

738
00:27:58,870 --> 00:27:57,200
and

739
00:28:00,789 --> 00:27:58,880
so it's haunted ground everywhere we

740
00:28:02,549 --> 00:28:00,799
have ghost towns everywhere and it is

741
00:28:03,669 --> 00:28:02,559
really haunted so

742
00:28:06,230 --> 00:28:03,679
um

743
00:28:08,630 --> 00:28:06,240
a big question about all that is with

744
00:28:10,549 --> 00:28:08,640
bigfoot is do they are they attracted to

745
00:28:12,789 --> 00:28:10,559
that energy

746
00:28:14,630 --> 00:28:12,799
sure bigfoot's going to see the ghosts

747
00:28:16,630 --> 00:28:14,640
the spirits the indian spirits if

748
00:28:18,950 --> 00:28:16,640
they're around especially around indian

749
00:28:21,029 --> 00:28:18,960
graveyards they're gonna enter i do they

750
00:28:23,110 --> 00:28:21,039
interact with it who knows

751
00:28:24,950 --> 00:28:23,120
um

752
00:28:27,590 --> 00:28:24,960
i mean i'm sure they're curious about it

753
00:28:28,389 --> 00:28:27,600
and somehow they interact with it

754
00:28:30,549 --> 00:28:28,399
or

755
00:28:32,470 --> 00:28:30,559
are they that tribal and bigfoot have

756
00:28:35,269 --> 00:28:32,480
their own shamans and so forth they're

757
00:28:37,909 --> 00:28:35,279
medicine people that interact with uh

758
00:28:39,830 --> 00:28:37,919
portals um because the the thing about

759
00:28:42,389 --> 00:28:39,840
the thing with the paranormal is the

760
00:28:44,389 --> 00:28:42,399
ground uh and i'll just come out and say

761
00:28:46,470 --> 00:28:44,399
at the state park that we

762
00:28:47,830 --> 00:28:46,480
work in is called castlewood canyon

763
00:28:50,789 --> 00:28:47,840
state park

764
00:28:53,909 --> 00:28:50,799
and it's set up canyons that were used

765
00:28:56,389 --> 00:28:53,919
by native americans eons ago to bury

766
00:28:59,590 --> 00:28:56,399
their dead do ritual and so forth

767
00:29:01,830 --> 00:28:59,600
the area is extremely haunted it sits on

768
00:29:04,149 --> 00:29:01,840
a ley line

769
00:29:06,470 --> 00:29:04,159
everything that it sits on

770
00:29:07,269 --> 00:29:06,480
has to do with what's there

771
00:29:16,789 --> 00:29:07,279
the

772
00:29:19,430 --> 00:29:16,799
county attributed

773
00:29:21,830 --> 00:29:19,440
attributes it to a a gentleman that they

774
00:29:23,430 --> 00:29:21,840
found with his head ripped off in his

775
00:29:24,830 --> 00:29:23,440
arms and his legs underneath the bridge

776
00:29:26,630 --> 00:29:24,840
and i believe it was

777
00:29:29,990 --> 00:29:26,640
uh

778
00:29:32,710 --> 00:29:30,000
my notes it's 1964 i believe

779
00:29:34,070 --> 00:29:32,720
anyways so and that's for the park it

780
00:29:35,669 --> 00:29:34,080
really opened

781
00:29:38,630 --> 00:29:35,679
very rural area

782
00:29:40,470 --> 00:29:38,640
um nobody ever was tried or convicted in

783
00:29:42,549 --> 00:29:40,480
his murder i knew it was that the

784
00:29:44,230 --> 00:29:42,559
bigfoot had moved through the area

785
00:29:45,350 --> 00:29:44,240
in the first place

786
00:29:46,950 --> 00:29:45,360
so

787
00:29:48,470 --> 00:29:46,960
you know we have experienced uh

788
00:29:50,230 --> 00:29:48,480
different stuff and we usually capture

789
00:29:52,230 --> 00:29:50,240
it on camera

790
00:29:53,830 --> 00:29:52,240
well we have had

791
00:29:56,070 --> 00:29:53,840
other paranormal experiences in

792
00:29:58,070 --> 00:29:56,080
different areas but here

793
00:29:59,909 --> 00:29:58,080
i had to come to a determination to

794
00:30:02,950 --> 00:29:59,919
figure out what was showing up on our

795
00:30:04,789 --> 00:30:02,960
camera because we would go out and i was

796
00:30:07,110 --> 00:30:04,799
i've always done what i've always done

797
00:30:09,430 --> 00:30:07,120
the same as like timber giant bigfoot or

798
00:30:11,510 --> 00:30:09,440
other guys that do field research with a

799
00:30:14,789 --> 00:30:11,520
video camera i just go out there turn my

800
00:30:16,789 --> 00:30:14,799
camera on and do a split a segment

801
00:30:18,549 --> 00:30:16,799
and walk around and show you an area if

802
00:30:20,470 --> 00:30:18,559
i find some found something odd i'll

803
00:30:22,310 --> 00:30:20,480
show it on the video and so forth

804
00:30:24,230 --> 00:30:22,320
but a big thing that timber giant

805
00:30:25,830 --> 00:30:24,240
bigfoot started was people started

806
00:30:27,669 --> 00:30:25,840
saying you got stuff moving on around

807
00:30:28,950 --> 00:30:27,679
you behind you and to the sides of you

808
00:30:30,070 --> 00:30:28,960
and your peripheral that you're not

809
00:30:32,310 --> 00:30:30,080
noticing

810
00:30:34,070 --> 00:30:32,320
so we started doing that and looking

811
00:30:35,510 --> 00:30:34,080
slowing our videos down and looking at

812
00:30:39,510 --> 00:30:35,520
that

813
00:30:42,789 --> 00:30:39,520
lesson

814
00:30:44,789 --> 00:30:42,799
uh in cameras i had to learn

815
00:30:47,350 --> 00:30:44,799
the inner workings modern digital

816
00:30:49,510 --> 00:30:47,360
cameras and to understand what was

817
00:30:52,389 --> 00:30:49,520
exactly going on because there is a lot

818
00:30:53,750 --> 00:30:52,399
of huxtree with that

819
00:30:55,830 --> 00:30:53,760
and there's a lot of times i had to

820
00:30:57,509 --> 00:30:55,840
debunk myself

821
00:31:00,070 --> 00:30:57,519
things that i originally maybe had

822
00:31:02,070 --> 00:31:00,080
thought early on

823
00:31:04,230 --> 00:31:02,080
were related to the big fat activity i

824
00:31:06,630 --> 00:31:04,240
was investigating weren't they were

825
00:31:09,430 --> 00:31:06,640
created by the camera and panning

826
00:31:11,269 --> 00:31:09,440
effects and so forth

827
00:31:12,870 --> 00:31:11,279
because cameras are pretty sophisticated

828
00:31:15,750 --> 00:31:12,880
and they have us

829
00:31:17,430 --> 00:31:15,760
back in 2010 when all of this began the

830
00:31:19,590 --> 00:31:17,440
cameras that had come out at that time

831
00:31:21,830 --> 00:31:19,600
weren't very good they were running a

832
00:31:24,149 --> 00:31:21,840
little cmos sensor inside of them with a

833
00:31:26,149 --> 00:31:24,159
facial recognition chip i mean if you

834
00:31:29,430 --> 00:31:26,159
panned around too quick and they were

835
00:31:30,789 --> 00:31:29,440
only pushing 720p in 2010

836
00:31:32,950 --> 00:31:30,799
sometimes you know if you paid good

837
00:31:34,789 --> 00:31:32,960
money you got a 1080p

838
00:31:37,830 --> 00:31:34,799
uh but after video gets compressed and

839
00:31:39,990 --> 00:31:37,840
so forth it kicked it back down to 720p

840
00:31:43,029 --> 00:31:40,000
so panning around and so forth created

841
00:31:45,029 --> 00:31:43,039
smoky phantoms and so forth and so it

842
00:31:47,350 --> 00:31:45,039
became a process once i learned that i

843
00:31:49,190 --> 00:31:47,360
could decipher what actually was real

844
00:31:50,149 --> 00:31:49,200
and going on and what wasn't that helped

845
00:31:52,149 --> 00:31:50,159
a lot

846
00:31:55,430 --> 00:31:52,159
because i was starting to kind of fall

847
00:31:57,190 --> 00:31:55,440
into the drain of the blob squatch

848
00:31:59,590 --> 00:31:57,200
what happens is once you get caught in

849
00:32:00,389 --> 00:31:59,600
that it's very hard to get out of that

850
00:32:02,630 --> 00:32:00,399
so

851
00:32:05,190 --> 00:32:02,640
in order for me to do that i had to go

852
00:32:06,789 --> 00:32:05,200
back to the beginning and focus on the

853
00:32:09,669 --> 00:32:06,799
forensics

854
00:32:10,630 --> 00:32:09,679
of basic tactical man tracking

855
00:32:12,070 --> 00:32:10,640
and

856
00:32:13,990 --> 00:32:12,080
that was that

857
00:32:14,710 --> 00:32:14,000
yeah

858
00:32:16,789 --> 00:32:14,720
the

859
00:32:19,350 --> 00:32:16,799
mark before i'm glad you mentioned some

860
00:32:21,590 --> 00:32:19,360
things um before the show i sent you a

861
00:32:23,669 --> 00:32:21,600
couple of links to some new photos and

862
00:32:25,350 --> 00:32:23,679
videos being analyzed by the community

863
00:32:27,509 --> 00:32:25,360
and your opinion means a lot to me and

864
00:32:30,470 --> 00:32:27,519
others in your approximation there's

865
00:32:32,070 --> 00:32:30,480
been a lot of new stuff coming out and

866
00:32:34,389 --> 00:32:32,080
what you mentioned about the guy getting

867
00:32:36,389 --> 00:32:34,399
his head ripped off reminded me of a

868
00:32:38,549 --> 00:32:36,399
very odd story

869
00:32:41,750 --> 00:32:38,559
um you may have heard of i believe it

870
00:32:43,190 --> 00:32:41,760
was marijuana farmers uh up in the north

871
00:32:45,590 --> 00:32:43,200
east who

872
00:32:47,509 --> 00:32:45,600
encountered kind of a similar scenario

873
00:32:50,630 --> 00:32:47,519
and they called law enforcement which is

874
00:32:53,350 --> 00:32:50,640
sort of against what marijuana farmers

875
00:32:55,750 --> 00:32:53,360
do but there's a lot of new photos and

876
00:32:58,789 --> 00:32:55,760
videos and situations being analyzed by

877
00:33:01,350 --> 00:32:58,799
the community a lot of it seems very

878
00:33:03,830 --> 00:33:01,360
interesting what are your thoughts on a

879
00:33:06,549 --> 00:33:03,840
lot of the new info coming out

880
00:33:10,549 --> 00:33:06,559
well as i brought up the new video that

881
00:33:12,149 --> 00:33:10,559
the bfro had posted that's a poltergeist

882
00:33:14,310 --> 00:33:12,159
any ghost owner is going to tell you

883
00:33:16,630 --> 00:33:14,320
that that's what it is and it's kind of

884
00:33:18,310 --> 00:33:16,640
replaying whatever it's doing by hopping

885
00:33:19,909 --> 00:33:18,320
around over there like a rabbit whatever

886
00:33:21,430 --> 00:33:19,919
it's doing in the distance messing

887
00:33:23,509 --> 00:33:21,440
around on the ground

888
00:33:25,269 --> 00:33:23,519
so i had made the comment on whatever

889
00:33:26,630 --> 00:33:25,279
group i had commented i forgot it was

890
00:33:29,990 --> 00:33:26,640
this morning i said i got a hundred

891
00:33:31,590 --> 00:33:30,000
bucks says his grave is nearby

892
00:33:33,350 --> 00:33:31,600
you go poking around you're gonna find a

893
00:33:35,590 --> 00:33:33,360
little grave and that's what that is and

894
00:33:38,950 --> 00:33:35,600
his spirit is restless and still there

895
00:33:41,590 --> 00:33:38,960
because it's i mean i i that's

896
00:33:43,110 --> 00:33:41,600
it opens up a whole pandora's box

897
00:33:44,710 --> 00:33:43,120
but when you're a paranormal

898
00:33:47,029 --> 00:33:44,720
investigator you kind of have to

899
00:33:48,870 --> 00:33:47,039
categorize these things and put them in

900
00:33:51,269 --> 00:33:48,880
the right place because what happens is

901
00:33:53,509 --> 00:33:51,279
it's called the flights of fancy and

902
00:33:55,990 --> 00:33:53,519
your imagination will just take off in

903
00:33:57,350 --> 00:33:56,000
all kinds of directions and things are

904
00:33:59,509 --> 00:33:57,360
coming at you

905
00:34:02,950 --> 00:33:59,519
because of that information is coming at

906
00:34:05,830 --> 00:34:02,960
you and you're not deciphering

907
00:34:08,389 --> 00:34:05,840
fact from from you know fiction sure and

908
00:34:10,710 --> 00:34:08,399
that happens that's just part of

909
00:34:13,190 --> 00:34:10,720
you know trying to explain humans always

910
00:34:16,790 --> 00:34:13,200
trying to explain the paranormal

911
00:34:19,510 --> 00:34:16,800
um there is still a lot of that going on

912
00:34:22,629 --> 00:34:19,520
i mean i understand like i said

913
00:34:24,149 --> 00:34:22,639
the paranormal stuff um it does happen

914
00:34:25,190 --> 00:34:24,159
but

915
00:34:26,149 --> 00:34:25,200
it's

916
00:34:31,109 --> 00:34:26,159
i

917
00:34:32,950 --> 00:34:31,119
race

918
00:34:34,310 --> 00:34:32,960
and people have laughed at me and said

919
00:34:36,149 --> 00:34:34,320
you're suggesting there's an

920
00:34:38,310 --> 00:34:36,159
undiscovered race living out there in

921
00:34:39,909 --> 00:34:38,320
the wilds in colorado and i'm saying

922
00:34:41,990 --> 00:34:39,919
well yeah basically that's what i'm

923
00:34:44,230 --> 00:34:42,000
saying and they are an undiscovered race

924
00:34:45,510 --> 00:34:44,240
population who knows it's going to be

925
00:34:46,829 --> 00:34:45,520
high because

926
00:34:49,190 --> 00:34:46,839
it's booming in

927
00:34:51,990 --> 00:34:49,200
colorado uh but yeah the community

928
00:34:54,069 --> 00:34:52,000
itself in in in you kind of have to

929
00:34:55,990 --> 00:34:54,079
understand trends when you've been doing

930
00:34:57,670 --> 00:34:56,000
this a long time for the people who've

931
00:35:00,150 --> 00:34:57,680
been doing big for a long time we've

932
00:35:02,230 --> 00:35:00,160
seen a lot of things come and go a lot

933
00:35:03,589 --> 00:35:02,240
in a short period of time everything

934
00:35:06,310 --> 00:35:03,599
from

935
00:35:08,190 --> 00:35:06,320
world-class hoaxers to to catch and

936
00:35:10,950 --> 00:35:08,200
study to

937
00:35:12,710 --> 00:35:10,960
personalities that have come and gone

938
00:35:16,069 --> 00:35:12,720
passed away to

939
00:35:16,950 --> 00:35:16,079
new information new insights and trends

940
00:35:25,829 --> 00:35:16,960
and

941
00:35:27,990 --> 00:35:25,839
where they came from

942
00:35:29,910 --> 00:35:28,000
when when things get too out of control

943
00:35:31,750 --> 00:35:29,920
like that and people can't make a sense

944
00:35:34,550 --> 00:35:31,760
of really what they believe like you

945
00:35:37,109 --> 00:35:34,560
know ascribing the nephilim from the

946
00:35:38,710 --> 00:35:37,119
bible to sasquatch

947
00:35:39,910 --> 00:35:38,720
in the a lot of the people that have

948
00:35:41,910 --> 00:35:39,920
done that

949
00:35:44,390 --> 00:35:41,920
haven't done the homework on hominins

950
00:35:47,349 --> 00:35:44,400
and so forth they haven't done the the

951
00:35:48,310 --> 00:35:47,359
scientific they're not even aware

952
00:35:51,030 --> 00:35:48,320
that

953
00:35:53,030 --> 00:35:51,040
the chinese found dragon man or

954
00:35:55,190 --> 00:35:53,040
new hominin species in germany have

955
00:35:57,430 --> 00:35:55,200
shown up they're not even aware of that

956
00:35:59,190 --> 00:35:57,440
and all of that has to do

957
00:36:01,190 --> 00:35:59,200
with what what we're dealing with here

958
00:36:03,030 --> 00:36:01,200
because it's not some

959
00:36:05,190 --> 00:36:03,040
yes there are the native american

960
00:36:07,349 --> 00:36:05,200
stories people always refer to that and

961
00:36:09,190 --> 00:36:07,359
say well the native americans that i

962
00:36:11,589 --> 00:36:09,200
know said it's a spiritual being and

963
00:36:13,510 --> 00:36:11,599
it's not real well the cheyenne indians

964
00:36:15,589 --> 00:36:13,520
never said that and they were the first

965
00:36:18,069 --> 00:36:15,599
really major

966
00:36:19,670 --> 00:36:18,079
major tribe to start moving across from

967
00:36:21,430 --> 00:36:19,680
north america as they came down with the

968
00:36:23,430 --> 00:36:21,440
black feet and canada and they

969
00:36:25,990 --> 00:36:23,440
eventually ended up in montana but they

970
00:36:26,950 --> 00:36:26,000
traveled all across yosemite

971
00:36:29,349 --> 00:36:26,960
and uh

972
00:36:30,950 --> 00:36:29,359
all through yosemite with cheyenne

973
00:36:32,950 --> 00:36:30,960
in the shine clearly state in their

974
00:36:35,030 --> 00:36:32,960
creation story that the hairy ones the

975
00:36:36,710 --> 00:36:35,040
hairy people they didn't intermingle

976
00:36:38,710 --> 00:36:36,720
with them and

977
00:36:40,230 --> 00:36:38,720
there weren't green blue red lights

978
00:36:42,390 --> 00:36:40,240
coming out of the sky and picking them

979
00:36:44,790 --> 00:36:42,400
up they pretty much kept to themselves

980
00:36:46,550 --> 00:36:44,800
and stayed in their caves

981
00:36:49,030 --> 00:36:46,560
and that's basically what we're dealing

982
00:36:51,829 --> 00:36:49,040
with in colorado i have an isolated race

983
00:36:53,109 --> 00:36:51,839
of hairy beings of hominins that stick

984
00:36:56,150 --> 00:36:53,119
to the cave

985
00:36:58,390 --> 00:36:56,160
and they do come close into the towns um

986
00:37:00,390 --> 00:36:58,400
part of that has to do like within daily

987
00:37:01,910 --> 00:37:00,400
colorado has to do with resources you

988
00:37:04,069 --> 00:37:01,920
know a lot of the mountain towns are

989
00:37:04,950 --> 00:37:04,079
built around a river and that's where

990
00:37:06,630 --> 00:37:04,960
you're going to be you're going to have

991
00:37:09,270 --> 00:37:06,640
your game and fish that's going to stock

992
00:37:11,430 --> 00:37:09,280
the rivers uh with fish which is going

993
00:37:13,589 --> 00:37:11,440
to attract the deer and

994
00:37:15,349 --> 00:37:13,599
the reptiles and every other type of

995
00:37:16,950 --> 00:37:15,359
fauna and that's basically how

996
00:37:19,430 --> 00:37:16,960
communities in the in the rockies are

997
00:37:20,950 --> 00:37:19,440
built around is that water source so the

998
00:37:22,790 --> 00:37:20,960
sasquatch is going to be right there in

999
00:37:23,750 --> 00:37:22,800
their perimeter to living amongst the

1000
00:37:25,190 --> 00:37:23,760
people

1001
00:37:27,190 --> 00:37:25,200
so they get close

1002
00:37:28,470 --> 00:37:27,200
uh enough because it's a sharing of

1003
00:37:30,390 --> 00:37:28,480
resources

1004
00:37:33,270 --> 00:37:30,400
that's why they're there

1005
00:37:35,109 --> 00:37:33,280
but it's not it's not brain surgery

1006
00:37:38,230 --> 00:37:35,119
the like i said the other paranormal

1007
00:37:39,910 --> 00:37:38,240
stuff has always been there um

1008
00:37:42,150 --> 00:37:39,920
you know me and susan have been to some

1009
00:37:44,710 --> 00:37:42,160
places in the rockies with the where the

1010
00:37:47,829 --> 00:37:44,720
historical content is really rich i mean

1011
00:37:49,430 --> 00:37:47,839
a lot of outlaws and gold miners stuff

1012
00:37:51,430 --> 00:37:49,440
like that

1013
00:37:54,550 --> 00:37:51,440
we've actually seen

1014
00:37:56,710 --> 00:37:54,560
well susan actually saw this uh we were

1015
00:37:58,950 --> 00:37:56,720
standing on the banks of the platte

1016
00:38:01,270 --> 00:37:58,960
river and she said look over there do

1017
00:38:02,950 --> 00:38:01,280
you see that and i said what and i

1018
00:38:03,910 --> 00:38:02,960
didn't see anything and she said there's

1019
00:38:55,510 --> 00:38:03,920
a

1020
00:38:57,109 --> 00:38:55,520
um

1021
00:38:59,270 --> 00:38:57,119
and a lot of times i think it's a

1022
00:39:01,750 --> 00:38:59,280
misidentification people ascribe that to

1023
00:39:05,589 --> 00:39:01,760
being a bigfoot and

1024
00:39:07,829 --> 00:39:05,599
yeah a bigfoot a bigfoot to us is

1025
00:39:10,950 --> 00:39:07,839
is what we're finding the prince in the

1026
00:39:13,589 --> 00:39:10,960
uh and what we've seen in here audibly

1027
00:39:16,510 --> 00:39:13,599
they've talked to us we've heard them

1028
00:39:19,190 --> 00:39:16,520
shout phrases to us no telepathic not

1029
00:39:21,750 --> 00:39:19,200
telepathically not that what people call

1030
00:39:24,870 --> 00:39:21,760
woo we've actually heard the things bark

1031
00:39:26,150 --> 00:39:24,880
phrases out at us before

1032
00:39:29,270 --> 00:39:26,160
amazing

1033
00:39:30,550 --> 00:39:29,280
and you're right over the years uh a lot

1034
00:39:32,069 --> 00:39:30,560
of things have come and gone in the

1035
00:39:34,710 --> 00:39:32,079
bigfoot community

1036
00:39:37,270 --> 00:39:34,720
uh one thing one controversy over the

1037
00:39:38,230 --> 00:39:37,280
years that the bigfoot community has

1038
00:39:40,550 --> 00:39:38,240
well

1039
00:39:43,270 --> 00:39:40,560
had and still struggles with

1040
00:39:45,750 --> 00:39:43,280
is the need to have a viable corpse or

1041
00:39:48,310 --> 00:39:45,760
body for science and this has exploded

1042
00:39:50,150 --> 00:39:48,320
into almost a political debate

1043
00:39:52,470 --> 00:39:50,160
in your expert opinion is this something

1044
00:39:55,270 --> 00:39:52,480
you believe is necessary

1045
00:39:57,349 --> 00:39:55,280
what what i believe the next evolution

1046
00:39:59,270 --> 00:39:57,359
for bigfoot research and i want to be

1047
00:40:01,589 --> 00:39:59,280
involved in it in any way that i can if

1048
00:40:02,550 --> 00:40:01,599
i can find a route is search for the

1049
00:40:05,589 --> 00:40:02,560
bones

1050
00:40:07,430 --> 00:40:05,599
i like as i mentioned before i believe

1051
00:40:10,230 --> 00:40:07,440
in the hominid discoveries that have

1052
00:40:12,309 --> 00:40:10,240
been moving slowly east right to us it

1053
00:40:15,430 --> 00:40:12,319
started in alaska

1054
00:40:17,990 --> 00:40:15,440
the uh now it's moved back in my area

1055
00:40:19,990 --> 00:40:18,000
and i need to find out why douglas

1056
00:40:21,510 --> 00:40:20,000
county is digging in caves again they're

1057
00:40:23,430 --> 00:40:21,520
looking for something and beyond

1058
00:40:25,510 --> 00:40:23,440
arrowheads i know they are because

1059
00:40:28,790 --> 00:40:25,520
that's a big project and it takes a huge

1060
00:40:32,870 --> 00:40:28,800
federal grant to start doing that

1061
00:40:34,950 --> 00:40:32,880
um so that is the next evolution of

1062
00:40:36,710 --> 00:40:34,960
and i actually have more interesting

1063
00:40:39,750 --> 00:40:36,720
stories about that

1064
00:40:41,510 --> 00:40:39,760
um historically but i believe that's

1065
00:40:45,190 --> 00:40:41,520
where we need to be focusing is not the

1066
00:40:46,550 --> 00:40:45,200
dna not extracting dna from nests um and

1067
00:40:48,630 --> 00:40:46,560
doing things like that where we're

1068
00:40:50,470 --> 00:40:48,640
really kind of like pushing pushing

1069
00:40:51,750 --> 00:40:50,480
pushing trying to find something it's

1070
00:40:54,470 --> 00:40:51,760
like you're almost reaching and

1071
00:40:56,230 --> 00:40:54,480
searching the bones if we can locate and

1072
00:40:59,030 --> 00:40:56,240
prove that there was that hominids did

1073
00:41:00,309 --> 00:40:59,040
here exist in north america uh then

1074
00:41:02,790 --> 00:41:00,319
we're on our way

1075
00:41:04,470 --> 00:41:02,800
uh because we'll find the giants now

1076
00:41:07,670 --> 00:41:04,480
there's all kinds of conspiracies out

1077
00:41:09,750 --> 00:41:07,680
there about why um because of native law

1078
00:41:11,990 --> 00:41:09,760
and other things so for tribal law in

1079
00:41:14,150 --> 00:41:12,000
the united states they can't dig up huge

1080
00:41:15,829 --> 00:41:14,160
mounds and so forth to see what's in

1081
00:41:19,510 --> 00:41:15,839
those huge mounds

1082
00:41:21,990 --> 00:41:19,520
but ground penetrating radar can work um

1083
00:41:23,589 --> 00:41:22,000
the problem is is that this is like new

1084
00:41:24,870 --> 00:41:23,599
this is almost like virgin territory

1085
00:41:25,990 --> 00:41:24,880
because

1086
00:41:27,270 --> 00:41:26,000
there hasn't been a whole lot of

1087
00:41:30,470 --> 00:41:27,280
archaeology

1088
00:41:33,349 --> 00:41:30,480
for this type stuff in um

1089
00:41:34,870 --> 00:41:33,359
in north america now hominology

1090
00:41:36,390 --> 00:41:34,880
typically what archaeologists and

1091
00:41:39,510 --> 00:41:36,400
anthropologists do is they're looking

1092
00:41:41,190 --> 00:41:39,520
for pottery shards in baskets basket

1093
00:41:42,309 --> 00:41:41,200
weaving and pottery shards is how we

1094
00:41:44,710 --> 00:41:42,319
determine

1095
00:41:47,109 --> 00:41:44,720
uh an anthropology where certain native

1096
00:41:49,430 --> 00:41:47,119
populations moved migrated to and so

1097
00:41:51,190 --> 00:41:49,440
forth because they based on the type of

1098
00:41:53,910 --> 00:41:51,200
pottery they made i mean that's pretty

1099
00:41:56,470 --> 00:41:53,920
much how archaeology works they have not

1100
00:41:59,910 --> 00:41:56,480
been looking for

1101
00:42:00,790 --> 00:41:59,920
the bones of a buried hominin

1102
00:42:03,990 --> 00:42:00,800
like

1103
00:42:05,349 --> 00:42:04,000
homo heidelbergenos in the pit of bones

1104
00:42:07,829 --> 00:42:05,359
in spain

1105
00:42:09,430 --> 00:42:07,839
i believe with all my heart that that is

1106
00:42:10,790 --> 00:42:09,440
what is going to be the next major

1107
00:42:12,230 --> 00:42:10,800
breakthrough in north america and

1108
00:42:13,510 --> 00:42:12,240
bigfoot research is we're going to

1109
00:42:16,630 --> 00:42:13,520
discover

1110
00:42:18,230 --> 00:42:16,640
a cavern or cave where

1111
00:42:21,910 --> 00:42:18,240
bones are

1112
00:42:23,990 --> 00:42:21,920
of the species and it was ritualized and

1113
00:42:26,790 --> 00:42:24,000
they practiced burial rites to make sure

1114
00:42:28,950 --> 00:42:26,800
that it wasn't disturbed but you know

1115
00:42:31,030 --> 00:42:28,960
one way that the problem with that is in

1116
00:42:33,270 --> 00:42:31,040
caves you're going to have to use ground

1117
00:42:34,390 --> 00:42:33,280
penetrating radar and that type things

1118
00:42:36,790 --> 00:42:34,400
because

1119
00:42:39,270 --> 00:42:36,800
each civilization that uses a rock

1120
00:42:41,510 --> 00:42:39,280
shelter or a cave like let's say people

1121
00:42:42,829 --> 00:42:41,520
way back in the archaic period used it

1122
00:42:45,910 --> 00:42:42,839
and then people in

1123
00:42:47,750 --> 00:42:45,920
1725 used it in the old west so you have

1124
00:42:49,829 --> 00:42:47,760
all these layers of civilization and

1125
00:42:51,750 --> 00:42:49,839
have their trash and other stuff buried

1126
00:42:53,349 --> 00:42:51,760
in that and that's basically where they

1127
00:42:55,589 --> 00:42:53,359
need to get to the lowest level to find

1128
00:42:57,510 --> 00:42:55,599
out if bigfoot's you know

1129
00:42:59,030 --> 00:42:57,520
been burying their dead here

1130
00:43:01,670 --> 00:42:59,040
that that's either going to make or

1131
00:43:03,589 --> 00:43:01,680
break us um yeah i may not see it in my

1132
00:43:05,670 --> 00:43:03,599
lifetime i'm hoping i do i can feel it

1133
00:43:08,150 --> 00:43:05,680
like it's on the horizon but i feel

1134
00:43:10,790 --> 00:43:08,160
bones the bones of the creature is where

1135
00:43:12,870 --> 00:43:10,800
we need to be focusing so like i said we

1136
00:43:15,510 --> 00:43:12,880
have several graves

1137
00:43:17,910 --> 00:43:15,520
we're kind of debating on what to do

1138
00:43:19,349 --> 00:43:17,920
you know going forward with that

1139
00:43:21,349 --> 00:43:19,359
because some of them are in national

1140
00:43:22,870 --> 00:43:21,359
forest so if there was a big foot buried

1141
00:43:24,790 --> 00:43:22,880
there and we had very large funds we

1142
00:43:27,750 --> 00:43:24,800
wouldn't get in trouble but if it was on

1143
00:43:29,109 --> 00:43:27,760
blm land or tribal end we could

1144
00:43:31,190 --> 00:43:29,119
so that's one of those things to

1145
00:43:34,069 --> 00:43:31,200
consider before you go start digging

1146
00:43:36,790 --> 00:43:34,079
upgrades looking for the bones

1147
00:43:38,950 --> 00:43:36,800
yeah and mark mark you are always in the

1148
00:43:41,430 --> 00:43:38,960
field and far from being an armchair

1149
00:43:43,430 --> 00:43:41,440
researcher as they are called can you

1150
00:43:45,589 --> 00:43:43,440
give listeners other than the examples

1151
00:43:47,030 --> 00:43:45,599
you have already a couple of details of

1152
00:43:48,550 --> 00:43:47,040
recent bigfoot sightings or

1153
00:43:51,670 --> 00:43:48,560
investigations that have made an

1154
00:43:56,550 --> 00:43:54,950
you mean here in colorado right

1155
00:44:00,470 --> 00:43:56,560
yes you mean my research here yeah

1156
00:44:02,630 --> 00:44:00,480
colorado correct yeah um okay um the uh

1157
00:44:05,910 --> 00:44:02,640
i'll start with the haman group

1158
00:44:08,390 --> 00:44:05,920
2009 hayman fire down in the flat river

1159
00:44:10,230 --> 00:44:08,400
valley uh here in colorado

1160
00:44:12,390 --> 00:44:10,240
it's one of the most devastating fires

1161
00:44:14,550 --> 00:44:12,400
colorado history it destroyed

1162
00:44:17,190 --> 00:44:14,560
much of the historical area i'm talking

1163
00:44:19,030 --> 00:44:17,200
around the south platte river valley a

1164
00:44:20,309 --> 00:44:19,040
big area around buffalo creek it just

1165
00:44:22,230 --> 00:44:20,319
burned it up

1166
00:44:24,710 --> 00:44:22,240
part of section two of the colorado

1167
00:44:26,630 --> 00:44:24,720
trail is completely gone and

1168
00:44:29,510 --> 00:44:26,640
uh was just destroyed

1169
00:44:33,430 --> 00:44:29,520
and that particular area was bigfoot

1170
00:44:35,109 --> 00:44:33,440
rich in lore legend and sightings for

1171
00:44:36,710 --> 00:44:35,119
many many years it's near decker's

1172
00:44:38,950 --> 00:44:36,720
colorado

1173
00:44:41,349 --> 00:44:38,960
uh which is still a hot spot but

1174
00:44:43,750 --> 00:44:41,359
basically what the bigfoot did in in the

1175
00:44:47,670 --> 00:44:43,760
predictive model with the forest fire is

1176
00:44:49,349 --> 00:44:47,680
they ran to the river to the to the uh

1177
00:44:51,430 --> 00:44:49,359
and set up shop on the other side where

1178
00:44:53,910 --> 00:44:51,440
the fire didn't jump the river basically

1179
00:44:57,990 --> 00:44:53,920
they set up shop there and

1180
00:44:59,430 --> 00:44:58,000
just basically using a a basic model of

1181
00:45:01,190 --> 00:44:59,440
where would you run if you were a

1182
00:45:02,150 --> 00:45:01,200
bigfoot and this forest fire happened

1183
00:45:04,710 --> 00:45:02,160
here

1184
00:45:06,550 --> 00:45:04,720
we started running across the symbology

1185
00:45:09,430 --> 00:45:06,560
the prince everything that we needed on

1186
00:45:11,270 --> 00:45:09,440
the other side of the river and uh

1187
00:45:13,349 --> 00:45:11,280
uh we

1188
00:45:15,109 --> 00:45:13,359
were up there and we had a rock thrown

1189
00:45:16,710 --> 00:45:15,119
at us um

1190
00:45:19,030 --> 00:45:16,720
because subsequently

1191
00:45:21,030 --> 00:45:19,040
oh we found the caves i used google

1192
00:45:21,829 --> 00:45:21,040
earth

1193
00:45:24,069 --> 00:45:21,839
uh

1194
00:45:25,510 --> 00:45:24,079
we used google earth in a little bit of

1195
00:45:28,390 --> 00:45:25,520
remote viewing

1196
00:45:31,270 --> 00:45:28,400
to try and track this rock thrower down

1197
00:45:33,190 --> 00:45:31,280
we narrowed them down on the uh on the

1198
00:45:35,030 --> 00:45:33,200
platte river near a place called strata

1199
00:45:37,349 --> 00:45:35,040
springs reservoir

1200
00:45:39,190 --> 00:45:37,359
uh up on a high cliff he was just

1201
00:45:41,030 --> 00:45:39,200
sitting up there we were there we were

1202
00:45:42,950 --> 00:45:41,040
actually there looking to see what you

1203
00:45:45,750 --> 00:45:42,960
know who threw the rock

1204
00:45:47,030 --> 00:45:45,760
he was sitting up on a cliff

1205
00:45:48,309 --> 00:45:47,040
we were on the other side of the river

1206
00:45:50,550 --> 00:45:48,319
we were yelling at it and so forth and

1207
00:45:52,390 --> 00:45:50,560
we couldn't get its attention so we came

1208
00:45:53,430 --> 00:45:52,400
back the next week went up that side of

1209
00:45:55,190 --> 00:45:53,440
the hill

1210
00:45:57,270 --> 00:45:55,200
climbed up that cliff to where he was i

1211
00:45:58,390 --> 00:45:57,280
did a video up there the day that i went

1212
00:45:59,270 --> 00:45:58,400
up there

1213
00:46:01,750 --> 00:45:59,280
uh

1214
00:46:03,270 --> 00:46:01,760
found a rock stack up there twisted tree

1215
00:46:04,150 --> 00:46:03,280
maybe a print

1216
00:46:05,910 --> 00:46:04,160
um

1217
00:46:07,589 --> 00:46:05,920
we had the picture of what looked like

1218
00:46:09,829 --> 00:46:07,599
patty patty's sitting up there just

1219
00:46:11,829 --> 00:46:09,839
massive just watching the river we were

1220
00:46:13,349 --> 00:46:11,839
yelling at the and it didn't turn and

1221
00:46:15,190 --> 00:46:13,359
look at us or anything it's just sitting

1222
00:46:17,910 --> 00:46:15,200
there staring like it was meditating it

1223
00:46:20,470 --> 00:46:17,920
was like in a sitting meditative style

1224
00:46:22,069 --> 00:46:20,480
uh so we got up there i i went up there

1225
00:46:22,950 --> 00:46:22,079
susan stayed at the bottom we did the

1226
00:46:25,030 --> 00:46:22,960
video

1227
00:46:26,309 --> 00:46:25,040
ran into another one at the top of the

1228
00:46:28,390 --> 00:46:26,319
hill

1229
00:46:30,710 --> 00:46:28,400
uh the hair on my neck stood up

1230
00:46:32,550 --> 00:46:30,720
i got a in a little bit of him on video

1231
00:46:33,829 --> 00:46:32,560
and i booked it down the hill killed the

1232
00:46:35,829 --> 00:46:33,839
video

1233
00:46:37,510 --> 00:46:35,839
in that time in that group that we've

1234
00:46:39,430 --> 00:46:37,520
been studying the haven group we found

1235
00:46:42,470 --> 00:46:39,440
like i was talking about holes in the

1236
00:46:44,550 --> 00:46:42,480
ground where you have big logs that have

1237
00:46:46,069 --> 00:46:44,560
been snapped and shoved down in the hole

1238
00:46:47,829 --> 00:46:46,079
like somebody's been like hanging out in

1239
00:46:49,990 --> 00:46:47,839
the hole and then you have these big

1240
00:46:52,150 --> 00:46:50,000
rocks that could just be moved and plug

1241
00:46:54,470 --> 00:46:52,160
up the hole i said who's doing that you

1242
00:46:55,990 --> 00:46:54,480
know that that was them that's that's

1243
00:46:58,550 --> 00:46:56,000
the heyman group that's what we named

1244
00:47:00,950 --> 00:46:58,560
them we're still focusing on that group

1245
00:47:03,349 --> 00:47:00,960
uh we have another

1246
00:47:06,150 --> 00:47:03,359
group that does some incredible twisting

1247
00:47:08,829 --> 00:47:06,160
of logs like king kong is doing it up

1248
00:47:12,630 --> 00:47:08,839
near evergreen in a hit in an area

1249
00:47:15,349 --> 00:47:12,640
um very structure-rich environment

1250
00:47:18,710 --> 00:47:15,359
um this is all in our book in my in my

1251
00:47:20,870 --> 00:47:18,720
upcoming book all of these locations uh

1252
00:47:23,510 --> 00:47:20,880
i don't name them specifically all the

1253
00:47:26,390 --> 00:47:23,520
locations uh for privacy reasons but but

1254
00:47:27,750 --> 00:47:26,400
i give you a pretty good idea because we

1255
00:47:29,589 --> 00:47:27,760
are working in a

1256
00:47:31,990 --> 00:47:29,599
along the front range of the eastern

1257
00:47:34,710 --> 00:47:32,000
rockies so my area stretches from about

1258
00:47:37,670 --> 00:47:34,720
monument colorado down south

1259
00:47:39,990 --> 00:47:37,680
of castle rock to about evergreen and

1260
00:47:43,190 --> 00:47:40,000
then west as far as

1261
00:47:45,750 --> 00:47:43,200
uh kenosha pass bailey area

1262
00:47:47,910 --> 00:47:45,760
so that that's about

1263
00:47:50,829 --> 00:47:47,920
you know the areas that we cover

1264
00:47:53,270 --> 00:47:50,839
we hit up our hottest areas first

1265
00:47:55,750 --> 00:47:53,280
um but we've kind of taken a little time

1266
00:47:57,430 --> 00:47:55,760
off post lock down and so forth i really

1267
00:47:59,990 --> 00:47:57,440
wanted to do this book

1268
00:48:03,030 --> 00:48:00,000
uh and get it out there because i i have

1269
00:48:05,430 --> 00:48:03,040
so many pictures so much data and and so

1270
00:48:07,589 --> 00:48:05,440
much stuff it's starting to get lost

1271
00:48:09,589 --> 00:48:07,599
and so it was time it was time to tell

1272
00:48:13,190 --> 00:48:09,599
the the story of the first 12 years of

1273
00:48:14,549 --> 00:48:13,200
doing this in colorado and uh

1274
00:48:16,230 --> 00:48:14,559
and so that's what we've been kind of

1275
00:48:19,109 --> 00:48:16,240
focused on right now we know where these

1276
00:48:20,950 --> 00:48:19,119
clans are right and if we know they

1277
00:48:22,150 --> 00:48:20,960
don't travel

1278
00:48:24,870 --> 00:48:22,160
beyond that

1279
00:48:27,190 --> 00:48:24,880
the rule of thumb for us in colorado has

1280
00:48:30,230 --> 00:48:27,200
become you know the elk

1281
00:48:32,069 --> 00:48:30,240
the resources is their fish

1282
00:48:34,870 --> 00:48:32,079
they really do love fish

1283
00:48:36,549 --> 00:48:34,880
um one of the biggest areas up near

1284
00:48:38,230 --> 00:48:36,559
mount siobhana which is the fish

1285
00:48:41,190 --> 00:48:38,240
hatchery for this part of eastern

1286
00:48:43,030 --> 00:48:41,200
colorado uh they've got lots of big put

1287
00:48:45,109 --> 00:48:43,040
up activity up there it's almost like

1288
00:48:47,109 --> 00:48:45,119
they sit in the cliffs over and watch

1289
00:48:48,870 --> 00:48:47,119
the hatchery

1290
00:48:52,309 --> 00:48:48,880
is so cool

1291
00:48:54,470 --> 00:48:52,319
very cool and you know

1292
00:48:56,790 --> 00:48:54,480
studying bigfoot can be a challenging

1293
00:48:58,309 --> 00:48:56,800
endeavor uh people have opinions of

1294
00:49:00,870 --> 00:48:58,319
folks like you and i and others in the

1295
00:49:02,950 --> 00:49:00,880
field and i'm wondering if research has

1296
00:49:05,510 --> 00:49:02,960
changed your life in any positive or

1297
00:49:07,910 --> 00:49:05,520
even negative ways

1298
00:49:10,390 --> 00:49:07,920
okay the most i tell people this when i

1299
00:49:11,430 --> 00:49:10,400
got into this the most important thing i

1300
00:49:13,349 --> 00:49:11,440
ever did

1301
00:49:15,190 --> 00:49:13,359
when i decided to become in bigfoot was

1302
00:49:17,430 --> 00:49:15,200
do the background research

1303
00:49:19,589 --> 00:49:17,440
out of all the bfr reports out there

1304
00:49:21,510 --> 00:49:19,599
that i had said were too far to travel

1305
00:49:23,510 --> 00:49:21,520
there was one particular report out

1306
00:49:26,870 --> 00:49:23,520
there that stood alone online all by

1307
00:49:29,670 --> 00:49:26,880
itself and that was oregon report

1308
00:49:33,190 --> 00:49:29,680
number uh oregon babyfoot

1309
00:49:38,870 --> 00:49:36,230
report number 1339

1310
00:49:41,109 --> 00:49:38,880
and that single report gave me an outlet

1311
00:49:41,990 --> 00:49:41,119
where to go to start looking high siding

1312
00:49:43,829 --> 00:49:42,000
area

1313
00:49:46,710 --> 00:49:43,839
this guy talked about dogs getting

1314
00:49:48,710 --> 00:49:46,720
wrapped around trees and so forth

1315
00:49:50,549 --> 00:49:48,720
chose that location because it was

1316
00:49:52,390 --> 00:49:50,559
convenient for me

1317
00:49:54,309 --> 00:49:52,400
and it changed my life because i would

1318
00:49:56,470 --> 00:49:54,319
have never had i not pursued that

1319
00:49:58,150 --> 00:49:56,480
particular report i would have never

1320
00:50:00,150 --> 00:49:58,160
ended up in those canyons i would have

1321
00:50:02,630 --> 00:50:00,160
never ever had my first encounter there

1322
00:50:04,630 --> 00:50:02,640
i would have chosen another location i

1323
00:50:06,109 --> 00:50:04,640
chose that report

1324
00:50:07,750 --> 00:50:06,119
i'm sure those guys at

1325
00:50:09,910 --> 00:50:07,760
oregonbigfootresearch.com are really

1326
00:50:12,309 --> 00:50:09,920
loving that

1327
00:50:13,990 --> 00:50:12,319
but their report stuck out all by itself

1328
00:50:15,990 --> 00:50:14,000
so it was almost kind of like fate to me

1329
00:50:18,870 --> 00:50:16,000
i believe that i was meant to follow up

1330
00:50:21,190 --> 00:50:18,880
on that report it caused my sighting and

1331
00:50:22,790 --> 00:50:21,200
it caused me to become part of this uh

1332
00:50:25,349 --> 00:50:22,800
this community

1333
00:50:26,549 --> 00:50:25,359
uh going forward and i've been obsessed

1334
00:50:28,630 --> 00:50:26,559
with

1335
00:50:31,030 --> 00:50:28,640
answering some things i know they exist

1336
00:50:32,630 --> 00:50:31,040
i mean and they're they're like i said

1337
00:50:34,870 --> 00:50:32,640
there's other researchers who tell you

1338
00:50:36,710 --> 00:50:34,880
what you live in a in a rich environment

1339
00:50:38,309 --> 00:50:36,720
like the rockies they're not hard to

1340
00:50:40,150 --> 00:50:38,319
find so

1341
00:50:41,990 --> 00:50:40,160
i don't need to be out there every

1342
00:50:43,670 --> 00:50:42,000
single day hunting them down every

1343
00:50:45,190 --> 00:50:43,680
single day because

1344
00:50:46,710 --> 00:50:45,200
if someone were to fly out here and say

1345
00:50:48,549 --> 00:50:46,720
hey take me to one of your research

1346
00:50:50,150 --> 00:50:48,559
areas let's see what happened i'm pretty

1347
00:50:52,069 --> 00:50:50,160
sure we would have some sort of an

1348
00:50:54,950 --> 00:50:52,079
encounter in one of those areas

1349
00:50:56,630 --> 00:50:54,960
guaranteed so um i'm not worried about

1350
00:50:58,950 --> 00:50:56,640
taking a little time off and pursuing

1351
00:51:00,710 --> 00:50:58,960
other endeavors too but we're still at

1352
00:51:02,470 --> 00:51:00,720
it let's go ahead and the answers are

1353
00:51:03,589 --> 00:51:02,480
going to continue on even after the book

1354
00:51:05,190 --> 00:51:03,599
endeavor

1355
00:51:05,990 --> 00:51:05,200
because we're not really book writers

1356
00:51:07,750 --> 00:51:06,000
but

1357
00:51:10,470 --> 00:51:07,760
again it had to be done

1358
00:51:12,230 --> 00:51:10,480
so that's what's coming up um

1359
00:51:13,589 --> 00:51:12,240
and then i need to buy me an rc car a

1360
00:51:15,510 --> 00:51:13,599
nice one i've been looking at some with

1361
00:51:17,670 --> 00:51:15,520
the cameras and the lights all set up on

1362
00:51:19,990 --> 00:51:17,680
it because i need to get some of these

1363
00:51:21,670 --> 00:51:20,000
these pit holes i'm not brave enough to

1364
00:51:23,910 --> 00:51:21,680
go crawling down into them like some

1365
00:51:26,790 --> 00:51:23,920
other people would be i don't just go

1366
00:51:28,230 --> 00:51:26,800
down there with a helmet like that's not

1367
00:51:29,349 --> 00:51:28,240
that's not something i want to do

1368
00:51:31,750 --> 00:51:29,359
because

1369
00:51:33,510 --> 00:51:31,760
if you get bit by an animal or something

1370
00:51:34,630 --> 00:51:33,520
then it's just a whole host of other

1371
00:51:37,510 --> 00:51:34,640
problems so

1372
00:51:39,670 --> 00:51:37,520
yeah you use utilize technology the best

1373
00:51:41,670 --> 00:51:39,680
i can i also want to uh

1374
00:51:44,870 --> 00:51:41,680
working on getting a drone i want to add

1375
00:51:47,270 --> 00:51:44,880
drones into the mix for

1376
00:51:49,349 --> 00:51:47,280
coming in our next number of years doing

1377
00:51:51,349 --> 00:51:49,359
research so that i can get up into high

1378
00:51:53,270 --> 00:51:51,359
cliffs and areas and check areas like

1379
00:51:54,950 --> 00:51:53,280
that where where it would be too hard or

1380
00:51:57,750 --> 00:51:54,960
too long to climb to

1381
00:51:59,270 --> 00:51:57,760
yeah so drones and rc cars that's going

1382
00:52:00,470 --> 00:51:59,280
to be next uh

1383
00:52:03,510 --> 00:52:00,480
on our list

1384
00:52:04,549 --> 00:52:03,520
now i got a skype

1385
00:52:06,390 --> 00:52:04,559
yeah

1386
00:52:08,150 --> 00:52:06,400
and you know it does seem like the

1387
00:52:11,190 --> 00:52:08,160
technology is making it a little bit

1388
00:52:14,950 --> 00:52:11,200
easier to uh or at least it's offering

1389
00:52:16,710 --> 00:52:14,960
new angles to to research you are beyond

1390
00:52:18,630 --> 00:52:16,720
doubt one of the most influential

1391
00:52:20,710 --> 00:52:18,640
researchers in north america mark and

1392
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it's always good to touch base with you

1393
00:52:24,630 --> 00:52:22,559
and get updates in the field of bigfoot

1394
00:52:26,150 --> 00:52:24,640
research i can't thank you enough for

1395
00:52:28,790 --> 00:52:26,160
taking the time out of your day to talk

1396
00:52:30,630 --> 00:52:28,800
to me again and for our listeners where

1397
00:52:31,990 --> 00:52:30,640
can they keep up with findings and

1398
00:52:34,549 --> 00:52:32,000
everything you're doing and i'm really

1399
00:52:37,349 --> 00:52:34,559
excited about the book coming up

1400
00:52:40,790 --> 00:52:37,359
yeah um well i it's just my facebook

1401
00:52:43,750 --> 00:52:40,800
page um i i have an open group sasquatch

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00:52:45,829 --> 00:52:43,760
researchers of the american southwest

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00:52:47,589 --> 00:52:45,839
that's an open group on facebook and

1404
00:52:50,150 --> 00:52:47,599
then i have the colorado sasquatch

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00:52:51,990 --> 00:52:50,160
research um i just started like a little

1406
00:52:54,549 --> 00:52:52,000
science page but i don't update it very

1407
00:52:57,910 --> 00:52:54,559
much but you can reach me on uh on skype

1408
00:52:59,270 --> 00:52:57,920
now too mark parra

1409
00:53:01,190 --> 00:52:59,280
so

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uh the book um

1411
00:53:05,349 --> 00:53:02,880
we're having some technical issues

1412
00:53:07,510 --> 00:53:05,359
because self-publishing is not an easy

1413
00:53:08,390 --> 00:53:07,520
thing to do but it saves you a lot of

1414
00:53:09,589 --> 00:53:08,400
money

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00:53:10,549 --> 00:53:09,599
um

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so

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but it's i'm hoping by the end of august

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i want to do um

1419
00:53:21,030 --> 00:53:18,079
you know i'm going to premiere the book

1420
00:53:22,870 --> 00:53:21,040
and so forth when i'll launch it so

1421
00:53:24,950 --> 00:53:22,880
i'm going to have prizes and so forth

1422
00:53:27,430 --> 00:53:24,960
signed copies and some t-shirts and so

1423
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forth to do it um you know because it's

1424
00:53:30,790 --> 00:53:29,280
not about me and it's not about me he

1425
00:53:33,990 --> 00:53:30,800
wants to be a big book writer or

1426
00:53:35,910 --> 00:53:34,000
whatever uh the story had to be told of

1427
00:53:38,150 --> 00:53:35,920
the research um

1428
00:53:41,829 --> 00:53:38,160
all the data that i've collected over 12

1429
00:53:43,829 --> 00:53:41,839
years and susan you know joining me

1430
00:53:45,829 --> 00:53:43,839
that we have on the eastern front range

1431
00:53:47,670 --> 00:53:45,839
of the rockies that is our location that

1432
00:53:49,349 --> 00:53:47,680
is where we have researched

1433
00:53:52,150 --> 00:53:49,359
so everything in it is going to be our

1434
00:53:53,750 --> 00:53:52,160
experiences and our opinions based on

1435
00:53:55,750 --> 00:53:53,760
those experiences

1436
00:53:57,589 --> 00:53:55,760
and doesn't apply to

1437
00:53:59,990 --> 00:53:57,599
let's say florida or what somebody

1438
00:54:03,349 --> 00:54:00,000
experienced in michigan or missouri or

1439
00:54:06,069 --> 00:54:03,359
wherever because the diet's different

1440
00:54:09,030 --> 00:54:06,079
um they don't have mountain goats or

1441
00:54:11,430 --> 00:54:09,040
rams and so forth that the bigfoot feed

1442
00:54:13,349 --> 00:54:11,440
on here so everything is completely

1443
00:54:16,549 --> 00:54:13,359
different in that respect so

1444
00:54:17,349 --> 00:54:16,559
it's it's a colorado based book

1445
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so

1446
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i'm not out there uh you know trying to

1447
00:54:23,109 --> 00:54:21,280
preach or tell people how it is with

1448
00:54:24,950 --> 00:54:23,119
bigfoot i'm giving them you know

1449
00:54:27,430 --> 00:54:24,960
basically the gist of what it is here in

1450
00:54:29,109 --> 00:54:27,440
colorado uh and what we've discovered

1451
00:54:30,390 --> 00:54:29,119
over that period of time and going

1452
00:54:32,309 --> 00:54:30,400
forward

1453
00:54:34,549 --> 00:54:32,319
very cool that's uh

1454
00:54:37,910 --> 00:54:34,559
we're looking forward to it

1455
00:54:39,430 --> 00:54:37,920
great idea and yeah it's it's it's

1456
00:54:41,670 --> 00:54:39,440
really something that i think a lot of

1457
00:54:44,549 --> 00:54:41,680
people will welcome in the field

1458
00:54:46,470 --> 00:54:44,559
and uh maybe we have to do like gofundme

1459
00:54:48,470 --> 00:54:46,480
to get some drones and some of these rc

1460
00:54:50,470 --> 00:54:48,480
cars because i mean you are consistently

1461
00:54:52,309 --> 00:54:50,480
finding habitats and structures and i

1462
00:54:54,230 --> 00:54:52,319
can i can only imagine how that

1463
00:54:55,670 --> 00:54:54,240
technology will help you

1464
00:54:58,309 --> 00:54:55,680
the only reason that i haven't gone to

1465
00:55:01,910 --> 00:54:58,319
thermals not just the price it's because

1466
00:55:04,230 --> 00:55:01,920
the credibility of it yeah because

1467
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um

1468
00:55:07,589 --> 00:55:06,640
there's no definition in it

1469
00:55:09,510 --> 00:55:07,599
like

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if you think about how easy it is to

1471
00:55:13,030 --> 00:55:12,000
hoax a thermal yeah it's pretty easy

1472
00:55:14,789 --> 00:55:13,040
actually

1473
00:55:17,109 --> 00:55:14,799
depending on what you're using because

1474
00:55:18,870 --> 00:55:17,119
it's basically just a heat signature

1475
00:55:20,950 --> 00:55:18,880
and so i kind of shut away from that

1476
00:55:23,589 --> 00:55:20,960
because if i was to get something on

1477
00:55:26,309 --> 00:55:23,599
thermal it would be ridiculed and

1478
00:55:28,470 --> 00:55:26,319
dissected up and down a million times so

1479
00:55:31,109 --> 00:55:28,480
i try and keep it

1480
00:55:32,710 --> 00:55:31,119
in the daytime if possible

1481
00:55:36,549 --> 00:55:32,720
so that there's less

1482
00:55:40,630 --> 00:55:38,230
introspection and where people think

1483
00:55:41,829 --> 00:55:40,640
that it's contrived in some way

1484
00:55:43,910 --> 00:55:41,839
so true

1485
00:55:45,270 --> 00:55:43,920
but drones drones are good i need to get

1486
00:55:46,870 --> 00:55:45,280
and see what's up on top of that cliff

1487
00:55:49,109 --> 00:55:46,880
up there if there's a cave or something

1488
00:55:51,030 --> 00:55:49,119
you know decide if i want to try getting

1489
00:55:52,390 --> 00:55:51,040
up there or not saves you a lot of time

1490
00:55:54,150 --> 00:55:52,400
in that respect

1491
00:55:57,109 --> 00:55:54,160
a ton of time

1492
00:55:58,549 --> 00:55:57,119
so true so very cool and i can't thank

1493
00:56:00,710 --> 00:55:58,559
you enough for taking time out of your

1494
00:56:02,710 --> 00:56:00,720
day to talk to us about bigfoot research

1495
00:56:04,710 --> 00:56:02,720
and i hope i hope we talk again i know

1496
00:56:06,470 --> 00:56:04,720
my listeners love it and uh they love

1497
00:56:08,230 --> 00:56:06,480
everything you're doing

1498
00:56:10,870 --> 00:56:08,240
thank you sir i appreciate it anytime

1499
00:56:12,150 --> 00:56:10,880
you want to chat i'm always available uh

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00:56:13,910 --> 00:56:12,160
looks like the chats are starting to

1501
00:56:15,270 --> 00:56:13,920
open up more people are getting skype so

1502
00:56:17,750 --> 00:56:15,280
we're gonna start seeing a lot more

1503
00:56:20,069 --> 00:56:17,760
different uh shows like this now so it's

1504
00:56:21,829 --> 00:56:20,079
kind of cool it is very cool we might be

1505
00:56:23,829 --> 00:56:21,839
going back into lockdown so why not

1506
00:56:25,910 --> 00:56:23,839
right that's right

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00:56:27,589 --> 00:56:25,920
all right my man i wish you the best and

1508
00:56:28,630 --> 00:56:27,599
i hope we talk soon have a great rest of

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00:56:30,150 --> 00:56:28,640
your day

1510
00:56:33,589 --> 00:56:30,160
all right thanks ryan take care have a

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00:56:37,829 --> 00:56:35,109
well there you have it ladies and

1512
00:56:40,549 --> 00:56:37,839
gentlemen mark parra world renowned

1513
00:56:43,589 --> 00:56:40,559
bigfoot researcher president of colorado

1514
00:56:45,030 --> 00:56:43,599
sasquatch research mark is consistently

1515
00:56:47,270 --> 00:56:45,040
in the field

1516
00:56:49,349 --> 00:56:47,280
very controversial cryptozoological

1517
00:56:52,069 --> 00:56:49,359
creature which is reportedly cited

1518
00:56:54,630 --> 00:56:52,079
thousands of times and he's in a hot

1519
00:56:56,549 --> 00:56:54,640
spot over time mark has gathered tons of

1520
00:56:57,510 --> 00:56:56,559
images he's shared and remarkable

1521
00:56:59,510 --> 00:56:57,520
knowledge

1522
00:57:01,030 --> 00:56:59,520
and i really can't wait until this book

1523
00:57:03,510 --> 00:57:01,040
comes out can't wait to have him on the

1524
00:57:05,349 --> 00:57:03,520
podcast again and until next time keep

1525
00:57:07,589 --> 00:57:05,359
your eyes to the skies feet on the

1526
00:57:14,660 --> 00:57:07,599
ground but don't forget to take a look

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[Music]

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come blast